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Friday, November 13, 2009

false gods, false religions and religious tolerance

 

False gods are no gods …

 

Therefore false religions serve no gods …

And religious tolerance of false religions is condemnation of those who either willingly, or unwillingly, find themselves in the snare of the devil.

Meaning false gods are oftentimes the work of demons … at other times simply the work of the flesh.

The Lord's bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will.  2 Timothy 2:24-26

 

Please note Paul does not teach Timothy religious tolerance for those in opposition nor does he teach him to be quarrelsome with those in opposition.

 

He teaches Timothy (and us in turn) to be kind to all.

 

He teaches us that we must be able to teach those in opposition.

 

He teaches us that we must be patient when wronged by those in opposition.

 

He teaches us that with gentleness we must correct those in opposition.

 

BUT the outcome is the work of God.

 

“If perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth.”

 

How often do we teach or consider that repentance is granted by God?

 

“And by that repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, they may then come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil.”

 

They have been held captive by the devil to do his will …

 

Religious tolerance works in agreement with the devil to keep the captives ensnared.

 

We were once held by those very same snares … but …

 

For by these He has granted to us His precious and magnificent promises, so that by them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world by lust.  2 Peter 1:4


We escaped the corruption of the world because God granted us a repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth.

Do we believe these truths from Scripture?

Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.  John 14:6

 

 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in Me. I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing. If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire and they are burned.  John 15:4-6

 

 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.  2 John 1:9

 

If we do … then IMHO we will not offer tolerance to those who embrace false gods and their false religions, but instead will join the Father in His work for escape and reconciliation.

Thoughts, insights and comment?

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Good post.


But, what is IMHO?

Posted 11/13/2009 10:36 AM by mpwarren - reply

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@mpwarren - IMHO ... in my humble opinion

Posted 11/13/2009 10:37 AM by bwebbjr Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - reply

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"Tolerance" is the new religion preached by Satan to decieve us into thinking that disagreement is ungodly.  We are lead to believe that disagreement with anyone or anything is evil and that blithely, silently watching while the world trots its way to hell is the call of a godly man.  Satan is a crafty old devil and even backs up these lies by giving us the example of people who call themselves Christians but are only hatemongers and tells us, "See?  Do you want to be like them?"  Disagreement and correction can be done respectfully and effectively.
Posted 11/13/2009 11:41 AM by blonde_apocalypse Xanga True Member - reply

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@blonde_apocalypse - Excellent comment ... thank you!!!  While others might say our lack of tolerance condemns us, I would say our tolerance of those who do not believe IN Christ Jesus condemns them.  Disagreement, correction must be done respectfully, effectively, lovingly, patiently, gently and according to the leading of the Holy Spirit ... seems to be what Paul taught Timothy and teaches us.

Posted 11/13/2009 12:03 PM by bwebbjr Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - reply

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@blonde_apocalypse - "Tolerance" is the new religion preached by Satan to decieve us into thinking that disagreement is ungodly.  AMEN!


And, what liars it would make of us who have believed in Christ who plainly tells us that He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life and that no one can come to the Father but by Him. if we were to be "tolerant" to the point of telling them the lie that "many roads lead to God"


I would rather that the world think of me as "intolerant" and that, because of my fidelity to Christ, someone would rethink their seeking after false gods.


@bwebbjr - Thanks for this post.

Posted 11/13/2009 1:06 PM by quest4god@revelife - reply

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I think there is a difference between "religious tolerance" properly understood and "religious indifference" which is indeed a tool of the devil.

Religious tolerance, properly understood, recognizes that it is not just to treat a person as a second class citizen because of his error. If a person wrongly believes he would be doing evil by doing a thing and he chooses to do a thing, then he would be choosing to do what he thought was a sin before God.

This doesn't change the fact that the person is wrong. it just means the state has no right to force him to do something he thinks is a sin.

Religious Indifference holds that one religion is as good as another and its all a matter of personal preference. This is of course demonic, and does indeed fit in with what you write about.
Posted 11/13/2009 2:13 PM by Arnobius_of_Sicca - reply

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I believe in some degree of tolerance. If we stifle the rights of others to speak and think as they wish, then others have grounds on which to limit our speech and thoughts as well. I will not be tolerant in that I just say "well believe whatever you want and everything's ok, surely that's ok with God as well" But I will tolerate others to have varying beliefs and they ought not be forbade by law to voice their beliefs. Now if their thoughts and beliefs cause the oppression of others (inciting violence to minorities or religious groups) or harm to others (yelling fire in a crowded theatre for example) and the stifling of their rights, then that kind of speech can be limited in my view.
Posted 11/13/2009 2:14 PM by Happily_Married_Guy - reply

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The Timothy passage reminds us we have to strike the balance between truth and love. We can never compromise on truth, but by the grace of God, we stand for the truth and we do so in love and humility, knowing our salvation is God's free gift to us.
Posted 11/13/2009 6:29 PM by naphtali_deer Xanga Premium Member - reply

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I'm always amazed at how people who are demanding religious tolerance are usually the first to take it away from Bible-believing Christians.  We see religious tolerance in the fact that many State Universities and Public High Schools are making Islamic studies of some sort or another required classes, yet if a student wants to start a Bible Club, it has to be long before or long after school hours, a sea of red tape, and exclusivity is banned; or if a teacher even brings a Bible to school to stuy during a planning peried, suspension without pay (at best) or termination of employment on the spot (at worst) are in store (not to mention Christian Schools which have employer codes of conduct are brought to trial merely because they fired a female teacher who decided to have a baby out of wedlock which, of course, went against the school's code of conduct in the first place). This is a spot-on post.
Posted 11/13/2009 7:44 PM by JandJinJapan Xanga True Member Xanga Lifetime Member - reply

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I believe we as Christians need to lern to pick our battles better. Let me clarify and you will understand what I mean. When my daughter was growing up she was sometimes very adament in getting her way, very picky on the foods she ate, she wasn't much of a vegitble eater, she still isn't. Sometimes as parents, if we are wise, we know how to pick our battles carefully. Many times what we feel is important really just isn't that big of a deal, certainly not worth risking the parent child spiritual relationship. If we are always battling our loved ones over insignificant little things we put an unneeded strain on the important relationship that can unfortunately carry well into adulthood. A wise parent picks their battles carefully so when there are battles they carry more meaning to the loved one's life.


We as fellow brothers and sisters in Christ need to also pick our scriptural battles more carefully with each other. We should not so quickly take offense or feel a need to argue over so many things that really wouldn't be there if Christ were walking the earth today with all of us. I think many times we all have much more in common with each other than we think. We are the Christ-followers and we need to all come together being united and let the differences stay where they belong, with the accuser. 


For it is the accuser who divides us to weaken us to seperate us from each other. Our unity is scriptural truth. There is no unity through nonexistant unnsupportive church dogma. We will not find this unity unless we all start reading and meditating on scripture more.     

Posted 11/14/2009 12:33 AM by RobertLeeRE Xanga Premium Member - reply

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any god that does not include the name jesus christ is a false god, how about if it includes his spirit?


1 remember one of the greatest acts of evangelism that i ever witnessed was when i saw l.c. paul evangelized 1million africans in one appearance. his message was: "if you muslim, stay muslim, if you are hindu, stay hindu , but come..............come and and ask jesus a living spirit and living savior to come into your heart and touch all the anger, and bitterness, and hatred and heal you and let him show you how much he loves you."


being in christ is having a relationship with a living spirit........a living being. being in christ is being against powers and principalities'. those 2 cannot mix.


what is accomplished by transgressing this thru church doctrine?


the hindu bible says that the world will be saved by a man dying on a tree?


being a believer i consider myself a jew. i went to the synogogue to study hebrew to help me better understand the old testament. i found the spirit of christ all over the synogogue, the thing that was painful was not being able to say his name to acknowledge his presence.


mother teresa told her nuns in her ministries throughout the world not to engage in discussions about religous ideas about christ, but instead...............................to be christ.


being in christ is embracing goodness whereever we find it. as believers we are to be led by the spirit of god.(romans)?


where is there a scripture that says we are to be led by church doctrine?


!thess 5:21" test everything, keep the good" test everything and keep everything that is of christ's spirit.


if all good things come from heaven, then heaven is in the lives of believers as well as non believers. are we to disclaim this goodness in non believers out of church doctrine or embrace it because as believers our battle is against powers and principalities?

Posted 11/14/2009 10:09 AM by feetxxxl - reply

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christ tells us that thru him we can love love as god loves(his unconditional love) "love one another as i have loved you" this is to non believers as well as believers, our neighbor being everyone else. love involves  honoring anothers life experiences and sincerity of heart. why would believers then turn around and look for reasons to withhold that love?
Posted 11/15/2009 9:13 AM by feetxxxl - reply


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